Re: virus: Re: Rationality (meme make-up)

Dave Pape (
Fri, 14 Mar 1997 18:51:20 GMT

At 16:04 14/03/97 GMT, Drakir wrote:
>"Kirt A. Dankmyer -- aka Loki" wrote:
>> >Fourth: This is where it gets confusing :) /If/ a fundamental meme can be
>> >identified, can it transmitted /by itself/? Can it "die" when propogating?
>> >What use is a meme that is so small? OK, now, leading on from this, /if/
>> >it is possible to transmit fundamental memes on their own, or in very small
>> >groups, is it possible to take a meme (read meme-complex) and propogate
>> >it as smaller parts, and have it rebuilt inside the new host? That would
>> >be the ultimate way to infect without detection.
>> Isn't this sort of the method one sees Socrates using in some of Plato's
>> dialogues?
>I'm afraid I couldn't tell you. I've only skimmed over Socrates, and
>not really looked at much of what he did/said.
>> Get somone to accede to a variety of statements (smaller memes)
>> so they'll be forced to accept your conclusion (larger meme)?
>That looks like the one.
>> What you're
>> talking about may be a more sophisticated version of that, but I think the
>> principle is the same.
>You could well be right, there, but I've got this image of memes that don't
>seem to bear any relation to anything, and it's not until a huge quantity
>of them have been amassed that they seem to make any kind of sense. It's
>certainly more complex, but I don't know if it's any different.

Don't see why not... unless the target host had a set of memes which took
yuor memetic input and formed from it something that you totally didn't

Dave Pape
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