Re: virus: Ego Tearing

Tadeusz Niwinski (tad@teta.ai)
Tue, 25 Mar 1997 03:10:13 -0800


Dan wrote:
>At 01:21 PM 3/24/97 -0800, Tad wrote:
>>It looks like a locked-up ego crying for help.
>
>HELP!! LEMME OUTTA HERE!! -Bzzzzzzt- OW!!

Masturbating again, eh? From a person who made such a lengthy lecture on
ego tearing I expected some seriousness. I was wrong.

>>> I know this is unsatisfying. You'll have to file me in with Richard on this
>>>one, I guess (Although, to be fair, Richard seems to care enough to write a
>>>self-help book. I don't. I'd rather bear a child to help somebody. It's
>>easier.)
>>
>>It's OK.
>
>It's past OK (2 blocks north of self-delusion).
>
>>You see, it sounded to me, you had a lot of good advice on
>>ego-tearing.
>
>Heh. Let's face it, Tad: if you really believed that, you wouldn't be trying to
>prod me, would you?

Well, yes, I did believe you, and I was interested in what you had to say
about ego tearing. This *is* my main reason to write to this list: to find
out what other people want to offer. I do treat people seriously until they
prove me wrong. Sorry if I offended you.

>>I was interested *how* you do it, that's why I asked.
>
>And that's why I answered (believe it or not). Do you mean something's unclear?
>You'll have to be more specific.

I don't *have to* do anything. I am still interested *how* you do it. When
you advise to tear one's ego apart and then put it back together, it sounds
very impressive, but it's not very specific for a person who wants to try
it, is it? Do you sit down twice a day and think about all "bad" things you
did as a 13 year old, then you "kill" the memory, label it
"painful/personal" or what?

>>When it
>>comes to sharing the technique, you are not satisfied with what you say,
>>blame it on little Dan and compare the big Dan with Richard. Why are you
>>doing it?
>
>Doing "it"? Do you mean "Why attempt to share observations when the anticipated
>results might be unsatisfying?", or "Why am I being disingenuous in my self-
>presentation?".
>You'll have to be more specific.

Let me try to explain what I said. In answer to my question *how* one can
tear one's ego apart you answered that you did not want to talk about
painful personal stuff. I did not expect you to bring painful personal
stuff -- I was expecting a technique or a method or /something/ I can try
too. Instead I heard about a "dead 13 year old" Dan. I did not understand
why you brought it up. Then you were comparing yourself to another person
who did accomplish something and you didn't. Again I did not understand
what it had to do with an ego-tearing technique I was trying to learn from
you. That's why I asked my "why".

>But in the mean-time, let me make a couple of observations:
>
>A: You're on a Brodie-Jihad.

What does it have to do with ego-tearing techniques? (Who is Jihad, btw?).

>B: The tone of your responses to my posts changed dramatically the instant
> I applauded Richard for a specific accomplishment.
>
>You seem to have a lot of emotional investment in the anti-Brodie meme.

I indeed invested quite a bit of money in publishing Richard's Virus of the
Mind in Polish. And in May I will be making quite a bit of money talking
about memetics in Poland. That looks like more a pro-Brodie meme.

I have no idea why you had to bring Richard to this ego-tearing thread and
now try to practice what /Harvard people/ call "pimp-psycology" (I love the
term with this special 'c' instead of the 'ch' :-))

>Sure, his replies are often curt and cryptic. So what? Ignore them. Sometimes
>he posts inanities as bait. Don't bite. Who cares? Beg off the thread and
ignore
>it. As long as you are truly content that you are getting something worthwhile
>out of the list itself, why even ask why he does it? You don't /really/ think
>he's /dangerous/, do you? How? Even if he is, do you honestly think that
>"exposing" him on some obscure little mailing list is going to irradicate the
>"danger"?

Did you really think he was dangerous?

PS. Hug little Dan for me, please. He's so lonely. Tell him I love him.
(I'm serious, Dan, big boys do it too, it's OK, it's past OK..., ask Richard).

PS2. Since you responded right away I take you are not going to try the
sentence completion technique. Anybody knows other ego-tearing techniques
(except writing to this list, of course) which we can learn from each other?

Regards, Tadeusz (Tad) Niwinski from planet TeTa
tad@teta.ai http://www.teta.ai (604) 985-4159