RE: virus: Yoda

Corey A. Cook (
Tue, 08 Apr 97 08:12:05 CT

I wrote:
>A synthesis of "Do or do not. There is no try." goes like this:
>In any action, success must be visualized and the subject must believe
>in success. Otherwise, subject will subconsiously sabotage the action,
>leading to defeat.
>Question: is it possible to take an action, and succeed, without belief
>in success or defeat?

Three people answered, and I'm going to respond to all of them in this
post, rather than in three individual posts.

Reed wrote:
>All truths are half-truths.
>I'm not being cheeky, that is the answer I would give.

If you are saying that there is no definitive answer to that question
which applies at all times, I agree with you. If you aren't saying that,
I don't know what you're saying.

>You're restating the Aphorist's Dilemma.
I'm not familiar with that one. Could you elucidate?

James wrote:
>Yes, it happens every time you respond without conceptualizing, and are
>successful. Example: Your friend screams your name as you start across
>the street. You looked before you started, and saw nothing. Now you look,
>and see the racing car that ran the red light. There is no time for, "Oh
>darn, there is a car coming and I must get out of the way." You JUMP for
>the curb, smashing your glasses and ruining the knees of your pants, but
>bruised and battered, you are alive.

You've given more thought to what belief and faith are than I have. I
keep looking over your response, and although I agree with it, I can't
help but think that there is something off there. I can't put my finger
on it. Maybe I'll think of it later.

David K. wrote:
>Yes. If you take an action and get result "P", and then decide at a time
>after the the action that resulted in "P" that "P" equalled a success
>condition then you had not tried for success at the time of action, yet got
>it. If your imagination and memory of the past is strong there may be
>events and actions of your distant history that you have not yet labeled as
>success, that you may reflect on and realize that those actions have caused
>enormous benefits in your life.

I added the second question:
>Question: is above synthesis accurate? If so, how accurate?
because I was thinking along those lines. I started to think that
maybe "Do or do not. There is no try." meant that you should go ahead
and do something because even if you fail, in hindsight you will see
that you actually succeeded.

Corey A. Cook

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