Re: virus: Religion, Zen, post-structuralism, and the failure

John ''!Boolean'' Williams (
Wed, 11 Jun 1997 07:48:47 -0400

At 01:33 AM 6/11/96 -0500, you wrote:
>> a) not have any intrinisic patterns...[snip for emphasis]
>> *or*
>> b) reality has an intrinsic pattern...[snip for emphasis]

>I question your use of *or* here. Could it not be *and* and *or* as
>well? Why the important stars?

I think this is an "Aristotelian 'or'" -- I think having no pattern and
having a pattern are both exclusive of each other, therefore, "or" and not

[David McF said...]
>> >It does work better. Unless you insist that planes only appear to fly.
>Darn right. Planes only appear to fly. Science says that what we see
>is valid, /is/ the world. So planes fly within the world view of
>science. If you do not accept the scientific premise that what we sense
>corresponds to reality, planes don't fly. But I think everyone (even
>non scientists) accept that one.

Agreed. I have doubts, however, about how well science can "observe" things
on a metaphysical level. Just because logic & science was used to make a
plane fly doesn't mean I'm going to believe either logic or science when
they insist that all motivation, for example, is chemical.

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