Re: virus: Obedience without thinking

chardin (
Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:53:46 CST+6CDT

> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:02:58 -0700
> To:
> From: Tadeusz Niwinski <>
> Subject: virus: Obedience without thinking
> Reply-to:

> Cathy wrote:
> >I recall a case of a man in Washingston State
> >(I think) who was shot dead in front of his children by a U.S.
> >Marshall
> because
> >he refused a court order to put his kids in schools. I guess they
> > learned a lesson ok: if you don't do as you are told, your
> >government will kill you. Government very often gets out of
> >control and people react violently because they do not have the
> >funds and resources to successfully launch a defense. Then again,
> >a U.S. Marshall has to enforce a court order. Terrible tragedy.
> Has to ?! Only if he believes in God who promotes obedience without
> thinking. Terrible tragedy, indeed, to believe in higher powers
> which supersede one own's thinking and responsibility for one's
> actions. "Terrible tragedy" that he "had to" or the he didn't think
> for himself?

Well, I will give you that no one "has to" do anything but defecate
on a regular basis and that ONLY if he eats regularly. However, from
a U.S. Marshall's point of view, when he goes to enforce any court
order, the unhappy recipient might be armed and decide to resist.
One thing leads to another and you have a tragedy. I find it
difficult to hold the U.S. Marshal at fault, because it is my
understanding that it was self defence. As for me, I would not want
the job; however, I have had to call the police when a neighbor
decided he would like to target practice with a high-powered rifle in
a residential area not so long ago. So I'm glad somebody wants to do
the job.

Now, if you want to talk about the Randy Weaver incident, that is
another story. From the facts, it looks at those the sharpshooter
MEANT to kill Weaver's wife. She was unarmed and holding an infant.

But why do you want to bring God into it? If the father had gone by
God's rule, he would not have pulled a gun on the U.S. Marshal.
> >> <BR>ideals man and was a great admirer of Jack London and his
> >> Never read the fellow. Guess I never will now.The Nateman
> >You've NEVER read "White Fang" or "The Call of the Wild" ? That is
> > unAmerican! ---I'm being to wonder about you, Nateman,-
> A U.S. Marshall may visit you one day, Nateman and he will have to
> enforce the American Way...
> Who is Jack London, btw? Any relation to Henryk Sienkiewicz?
You should read Jack London's The Star Rover--very interesting Tad,
you would like it.
> Regards, Tadeusz (Tad) Niwinski from planet TeTa
> (604) 985-4159