Re: virus: Translation

Brett Lane Robertson (
Fri, 17 Oct 1997 23:17:38 -0500

At 11:27 PM 10/17/97 -0400, you wrote:
B: >> I think YOU are the one that needs to provide an example of how
S: >To avoid Plagurizism, go here for a quick definition of The 2nd Law of
>It effectively means that all processes in a closed system use more
>energy than they can make. When you convert information from one form to
>another, you use energy, more than you gained in the process. Since
>energy - matter and information are interchangable, this applies to all
>of these.
>If you have trouble with this, I'll do the 200 line explanation, but I
>don't think you will, it is pretty simple really.

Read it, have no problem with it; but you are adding energy into a closed
system above and saying that the less ordered energy cannot escape (it is a
closed system for the product but not for the process?) Also, you are
saying that this applies to EITHER energy, or matter, or information
(interchangably). But relativly, it applies to ALL of them
indiscriminately...that is if you move matter to another position within a
relative system then both information and energy are equally affected...and
the law you propose says that the amount of disorder cannot decrease (well,
is matter disorder in regards to energy; then, convert matter to energy and
information becomes more disordered--no overall gain or loss...the same with
conversions of information to matter in regards to energy: This is
translation. And information--were it a separate entity from matter or
energy--would seem to conserve itself in the disordered form only long
enough to be re-infused with order by the next translation).

A: I'm not sure if information is something other than matter or
energy...if so, what?

B: The argument by the anti-creationist web page (that more energy is
always being added to this otherwise "closed" system) won't cut it...Where
does the entropy escape to?


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