Re: The story-telling ape (was virus: Logic)

Sodom (
Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:02:28 -0400

Brett Lane Robertson wrote: Sodom missed most of the post.

> *Maybe* most spirituality as it is *practiced* today (by the masses, I
> might
> add again) is less productive than most logic as it is practiced today
> (even
> if the later is averaged across all age groups and socio-economic
> classes
> like "spirituality" in his usage--I assume--according to the people
> one
> might meet in a church on sunday as compared to your average 9th grade
> drop-out); but, (a) spirituality is not taught in a school 6 hours a
> day 5
> days per week for 12+ years and (b) developmentally, spirituality is a
> more
> difficult concept to grasp than addition.

Yes, i did miss your point, this is better. I would say though that
spirituality is easier to grasp than most other concepts. I think it is
natural for people to lean in this direction. The reason I say this is
personal experience only. When I sit and read - study the Bible, i am
awestruck. I "believe" when doing so because it makes the material more
palitable, and gives me a better frame of refrence for understanding.
When I read the Koran, I did the same thing, and it seems to be too easy
to believe and follow. I can see how people become religious zealots. I
suppose it is possible that for some, spirituality is difficlut to
grasp.I have to consciously force the spirituality out of my mind a few
for a few days after studying religious text of any kind. And so far,
with the exception of Buddhism and some of it's ideas, I have yet to see
ANYTHING I want to take with me from the spiritual sector.

> PS...Sodom, DO you have a comment on the other ways I illustrated that
> quality of life might be maintained, or are you going to keep
> boo-hoo-ing
> about the social injustices blamed on christianity?

I don't think that the "age of Science" actually exists. Science is
on the level of verbal communication to me. As soon as man could
verbally communicate, things started changing, fast. Science is here to
stay, as long as man exists. It will only grow and purvade more and more
of what we see.

>>All of these "ways of knowing" (technology, deconstruction,
>> art,
>> imagination, control, standards, and creativity) surpass science and
>> can
>> take over--has taken over--the maintanence of life expectancy without

>> the
>> inherent failures of science (to provide for community and property
>> needs).

All of the ways of knowing you mentioned are still science, including
"art". These all fall into this realm. Science watches art and
creativity, and art and creativity are a type of science in themselves
in that they explore the options of the mind and objectivly document
what is happening in the mind.