Re: virus: Together or Not

Tom Parsons (
Tue, 25 Nov 1997 13:55:11 +1300

At 07:14 PM 11/24/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>self-aware consiousness as we know it is a relatively recent phenomenon,
>Jaynes puts it somewhere within recorded history, practically....

Quite definitely. He claims that the Trojan war was pre-consciousness, as
were the South Amerinds when conquered by Europeans.

>What then do we make of cave drawings? The Venus statuettes? Ceremonial

Jaynes has specific answers.
He also notes that one can accomplish an astonishing amount while
unconscious. Ask any commuter.

>And I'm not unconvinced octopi aren't somewhat self-obsessed....

Me, too. And some other animals, in fits and starts. But I can't see
practical applications of interest to me, even if this is true.

Tom Parsons