> Sodom wrote:
> >
> > Paul Prestopnik wrote:
> >
> > > > Sodom Wrote:
> > > > Hey, I think Bertrand Russle should be one of our saints.
> >
> > > the only writings of Russel I have read was a chapter entitled
> "the
> > > problem
> > > with evil" or something close. But it was pretty good, he seemed
> to
> > > have a
> > > clear way of expressing ideas, and a rational viewpoint.
> > > I guess my question is what does it take to be cannonized??
> > > Last I checked our only saint was Darwin, that seems a pretty
> obvious
> > > choice, but beyond that some criteria would be helpful. Does the
> > > saint-to-be have to be dead? Work done in meme's, or just
> something
> > > related, or maybe a foot ladder for memes?
> >
> > It seems to me that to be considered a Virian Saint, all you
> > mentioned is good.
> >
> > 1. They should be dead, but I'm not opposed to living Saints other
> than
> > they may become psycho's after we select them.
> > 2. They should have spent a lot of time examining and publishing
> works
> > related to mems, or thought processes.
> > 3. They should be Atheists or Agnostics
> > 4. They should be male (Just kidding, put that there for valerian -
> I
> > like to push butons!)
> > 5. They should have overwhelming CoV support
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Sodom
>
> Bill... there are lots of good theists out there that diserve
> consideration....!
>
> Marie
I disagree entirely!!!! On our web page it says "a memetically
engineered atheistic religion". Also, unless we want to rehash old
arguments, Theists have faith in a god, Faith in a "god" is "without
evidence" - a person who has Faith without evidence for, and a great
deal against, is someone to be pitied, not cannonized!!! I don't care
how smart, nice, wise etc... If you have "Faith" in the religious sense,
your out as a Saint! I'm not saying you cannot participate, but if our
virtues are to remain as they are, and reason is to be one of them, than
thiests have no place on the list of Saints.
Marie, I don't mean to sound mean spirited, perhaps you can give me an
example of a theist who is deserving of consideration.
Sodom