Re: virus: IAM what IAM and dats all what IAM

Marie L. Foster (
Wed, 24 Dec 1997 21:31:42 -0800

Indeed. And where does man stand on this continuum? Natural or
Supernatural. OK I am changing the rules again. I know this will upset
someone on the list. But get a grip it is only memes... Anyway, one of
the dynamics of the human is to separate from the natural world. We can
find strains of this in most of the sciences. Irony again and both a
weakness and a strength. It is all war. This is the way that we react to
each other. Emphasis on differences instead of our similiarities.


At 04:13 AM 12/24/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Wade T.Smith wrote:
>> > However, to truly accept that one must give up the idea of *I*. I
>> >contend that no one here, other than myself, seems ready to relinquish
>> >most fundamental faith...
>> And I contend you are the only one seemingly unable to relinquish it. Why
>> do you think I am unable to dismiss 'I'? I have already relinquished all
>> faith. And it was remarkably easy.
>All this talk of The I harkens me back to a conversation I had with friends
>the other day. We were musing on the fact that the human face has more
>independently movable muscles on it than that of any other animal and
>wondering out loud if a thorough understanding of facial expressions might
>yeild, at some point, to sort of language. One rich in sublties, similar
>to the so called "ESP" that a couple that has been together for years is
>said to possess. Where a raise of an eyebrow or gesture can convey more
>information that a hundred words.
>It is an interesting thought experiment to imagine what a world that
>employed such a "language" would be like. Every time your gaze fell on
>anothers face you would "hear" them. When your eyes happened to meet
>anothers you could not help but engage them in conversation, instinctually.
> The internal dialogue might, in such and instance, be suplanted by an
>external and constant dialogue in which the concept of the self would, of
>necessity, expand to include everyone else as well. This change in the
>concept of The I (quite akin to the Rastafarrian personal pronoun "I and I"
>meaning "My self and the self of which we are all part") would bring with
>it a profound effect on human cultures, to say the least.
>I wonder if that might be similar to what it would be like to be an ant (or
>a african hairless mole rat, for that matter).
>-Prof. Tim

Marie L. Foster