Re: virus: Meme's and linear algebra

Ariel Brosh (ariel@atheist.org.il)
Sat, 28 Feb 1998 02:54:55 +0200 (EET)


On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Eric Boyd wrote:

> Hi virions!
>
>
> > I think you can define functions as the result
> > of exposing memetic concepts (such as vectors, etc) to new memes.
>
> Errr. This isn't particulairly clear -- is that last word supposed to be
> host? Otherwise a function is the result of exposing meme's to meme's --
> which I guess does make some sense. Of course, functions result for any
> said combination, not just by the exposition of memetic concepts...

Well, I am not sure hoe you expose a meme to another meme if not using
hosts. If the funtion is elementar, it should correlate a meme to a meme;
so obviously what I offered is invalid.

>
> > My point was that a memetically thinking system identifies
> > new memes and reacts.
>
> And this is why both Tim and I said that functions are the result of
> "memetically thinking systems", i.e. hosts. (that, in fact, a host *IS*
> these functions)

Do you mean representing the host by a set of functions? I agree that if
you use a function to represent a memetic "thought" (ie, how some action
regarding a meme produces another meme) you can define tolerance,
infection etc as functions.

>
> > ok, lambda calculation is something lisp'ish. It basically
> > defines vectors while scalars and functions are the same type.
> >
> > Examples:
> >
> > true x y -> x
> > false x y -> y
> > if b xy -> b x y
> > while f s -> s, if f while f s lambda
> > for f t d s -> s, if (f - t) lambda for plus f d t s
>
> Well, your initial sentence came through all right, but I have no idea what
> the next part means -- are x and y vectors? Does the little arrowmean
> "implies" or "is mapped to"? Anyway, I certainly have not learned lambda
> calculations yet...

I think the arrow means the latter. I don't have any theory to use it to
represent memes, the thing is, x and y can be both vectors and functions -
it's the same type.

>
> ERiC
>

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