Re: virus: Re: Objects all in a row

Joe E. Dees (jdees0@students.uwf.edu)
Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:55:38 -0500


Subject: Re: virus: Re: Objects all in a row
Date sent: Thu, 8 Oct 98 15:31:07 -0400
From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu>
To: <virus@lucifer.com>
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> >It does not exist in the objective
> >world, being rather that for which the objective world
> >exists.
>
> Well, this is the core of my discontent.
>
Consciousness (read subjectivity) is always consciousness-of. Of
what? Objects (the "objective" world). It is an emergent property
which has risen out of the natural world to a position (read
perspective) from which it can view that from whence it came.

> How can anything be said not to exist in the objective world- where the
> 'objective world' is the universe?
>
The universe contains your brain, true; but your brain also contains
a *subjective* representation of the universe - at least those parts of
it which you have per- and/or conceived.


> And this- "that for which the objective world exists" is indeed a
> statement of the supernatural- that which is 'other' to the universe.
>
Wrong. See above.

> And as far as I know, clothes have to be made of materials.
>
But the emperor only perceives that he wears clothes by means of
the sense-impressions his nervous system gives him - and these are
subjective.

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