Re: virus: Level three

Jim Callahan (magicjim@islc.net)
Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:55:58 -0500


All right so as children we are close to level three and as we get older we
move away from it.
As our model of the world and how we are expected to interact in it evolves
we move to level two. Those persons who do not evolve correctly or have no
access to civilization take the e- ticket ride to level one. But we also
have the handful that refuse to conform their conciseness to level two and
they move to level three. Upon seeing the freedom these people seem to have
others strive for level three. And then what happens?
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Brodie <richard@brodietech.com>
To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
Date: Thursday, October 08, 1998 12:42 PM
Subject: RE: virus: Level three

>I see your point. It reminds me of the passage in Emerson's essay "Self
>Reliance" in which he describes the first time a child stops living for
>himself and starts living for the approval of others (language modernized
by
>me):
>
>The Lessons of Children
>
>Here's a good lesson in self-trust: take a look at children, or babies, or
>even the few remaining uncivilized peoples of the world. Study their faces,
>their behavior. Their minds aren't divided and rebellious like ours! They
>don't automatically discard ideas like we do when our mental computer
>calculates too much opposition to it.
>
>Since their minds are whole, their eye hasn't yet been conquered, and when
>we look in their faces we are disconcerted.
>
>Infancy doesn't conform to anyone—
>we all conform to it!
>It only takes one baby
>to turn all the adults in the room
>into four- or five-year-olds.
>
>The baby's magical charisma could be available to all of us in youth,
>puberty, and even adulthood if we'd just let it shine through us,
>unadulterated.
>
>Don't think teenagers have no power because they can't express themselves
>the way we might like. Listen! You can hear them expressing themselves loud
>and clear in the next room. They can speak perfectly well to their peer
>group. Through silence or shouting, they know how to make us adults very
>unnecessary.
>
>The casual sense of entitlement kids have when they know where their next
>meal is coming from—their princely refusal to acknowledge that you might be
>doing them a favor by feeding them—is just healthy human nature.
>
>A boy in the living room is like a heckler at a show.
>
>Independent, irresponsible, a spectator of the people and events that pass
>by, he tries and sentences them on their merits, swiftly and
>unceremoniously: good, bad, interesting, silly, cool, trouble. He never
>worries about consequences, about special interests. He gives an
>independent, genuine verdict. You have to court him! He doesn't court you.
>
>We adults are thrown into jail by our consciousness. As soon as others
>applaud one thing we say or do, we're committed.
>
>>From that moment on,
>we're forced to factor the approval or hatred
>of everyone we know into everything we do.
>There is no unlearning this.
>
>If only we could go back to that naive way of being! Imagine if someone
>could put aside all his attachments, seeing life once more from that same
>unaffected, unbiased, unbribable, unafraid innocence. He'd be terrifying!
>He'd comment on whatever happened, giving opinions that wouldn't seem like
>mere points of view, but like the absolute truth. His words would stick
like
>darts in people's ears and inject them with horror.
>
>Richard Brodie richard@brodietech.com http://www.brodietech.com/rbrodie/
>Author, "Virus of the Mind: The New Science of the Meme"
>http://www.brodietech.com/rbrodie/votm.htm
>Free newsletter! Visit Meme Central at
>http://www.brodietech.com/rbrodie/meme.htm
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com]On Behalf
>Of Jim Callahan
>Sent: Thursday, October 08, 1998 10:34 AM
>To: virus@lucifer.com
>Subject: Re: virus: Level three
>
>
>A child of say eight to ten is not. They have only started to build the
>boxes and walls that the rest of us fight to escape. And is not living
>without the boxes the idea behind level three?
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Richard Brodie <richard@brodietech.com>
>To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
>Date: Thursday, October 08, 1998 10:40 AM
>Subject: RE: virus: Level three
>
>
>>A child's mind is at level 1.
>>
>>Richard Brodie richard@brodietech.com http://www.brodietech.com/rbrodie/
>>Author, "Virus of the Mind: The New Science of the Meme"
>>http://www.brodietech.com/rbrodie/votm.htm
>>Free newsletter! Visit Meme Central at
>>http://www.brodietech.com/rbrodie/meme.htm
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com]On Behalf
>>Of Jim Callahan
>>Sent: Thursday, October 08, 1998 6:57 AM
>>To: virus@lucifer.com
>>Subject: virus: Level three
>>
>>
>>Is a child's mind at level three? I do think it is. As we grow we learn
and
>>we construct boxes. We move further away from level three. In these boxes
>>most people spend their lives. It is the spreader of the virus who
>>constructs the next better box.
>>In my line of work I am paid well to deconstruct the walls for a short
>time.
>>The effect on people is amazing. For a wile they are that six to nine year
>>old kid that we all carry around with us. And for a few moments the walls
>>are gone. They come back of course. But for a moment .......Jim
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Robin Faichney <robin@faichney.demon.co.uk>
>>To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
>>Date: Thursday, October 08, 1998 3:29 AM
>>Subject: Re: virus: Lateral thinking (was:More virian propositions)
>>
>>
>>>In message <361C46B6.F130E128@qlink.queensu.ca>, Eric Boyd
>>><6ceb3@qlink.queensu.ca> writes
>>>>I suspect that our minds are incapable of operating without "walls".
>They
>>>>are what keep us sane.
>>>
>>>They're what keep us on level 2, Eric. Which for some
>>>people is "sanity". Level 3 is not a big box, it's the
>>>limitless space within which all boxes exist.
>>>
>>>Right, Richard?
>>>--
>>>Robin Faichney
>>>
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