Re: virus: Science and Religion

David Leeper (
Mon, 26 Nov 1956 02:45:50 +0000

>Maybe it's just that I'm new to this forum, but from the debate I've seen so
>far, religion and science are forcibly and wrongly, divorced.
>When they are taken down to their components, are they not both merely
>collections of memes?

This man is a genius. No sarcasm intended.

> Think of your own body, not as a unit, but a collection
>of atoms clinging together to form molecules, to form cells, which clump
>together as organs (and much more!) and perform in a symbiotic manner
>to propagate themselves. As a side effect, a consciousness is created.
>An evolution, not of the species, but of the innards.

Think in this way, and you are using art. More power to you.

>If all you want is a religion that is "continuously integrating better (more
>accurate, more useful) concepts while ensuring the survival of its believers," you
>might as well jump on the Christianity boat, as it seems to mutate and evolve to
>keep with the times.

IMHO, Christianity does not, at its core, ever change. It wasn't until a few years ago that
the Roman Catholic Church admitted that the earth is not the center of the universe. The
clothes change, the language changes, the syntax changes, but the semantics remain the same.
Here at Virus we look for new meanings, new truths, and always keep an open mind. I will kill
anyone who disagrees with this.

David Leeper
Homo Deus