Re: virus: Social Metaphysics

David McFadzean (
Thu, 25 Sep 1997 11:50:40 -0600

At 01:15 PM 9/25/97 -0400, Reed Konsler wrote:
>>From: David McFadzean <>
>>I didn't mean to imply that. I believe that some parts of
>>objective reality lie entirely outside of anyone's (or any
>>observer's) perceptions, e.g. I think some stars probably
>>exist outside the lightcone of any and all conscious observers.
>Why? Doesn't that alter the common definiton of objective?
>It seems to me you are now using definition:
>1) Derived from the material and not the mental

What do you mean by "derived"?

>earlier you described objective as
>2) Identical for all observers using the same definition

I did not. I hypothesized that objective reality is
consistent (non-contradictory) for all observers using
the same definitions.

David McFadzean       
Memetic Engineer      
Church of Virus