virus: Mind-Flipper in Action

Tadeusz Niwinski (
Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:59:04 -0700

Richard wrote:
>On Thursday, October 16, 1997 10:45 PM, Tadeusz Niwinski []
>> You are not missing anything. Holding contradictory beliefs is a
>> to be eliminated.
>Holding contradictory beliefs is necessary for the multiple-model
>consciousness of Level 3.

Maybe. Sodom suggested that holding contradictory beliefs seems to be
something to be eliminated:

> At some level, this seems to be a "problem" almost everyone has,
>it's easy to find contradictory beliefs in just about everyone's
>philosophies, and generally these people accept this as OK. A good
>example is accepting logic as accurate, but holding metaphysical
>beliefs none-the-less. To me, this seems to be something to be
>eliminated, not looked for. What am I missing here?

Nobody was talking about Level-3, but thank you for responding to my
concerns this time.

>You keep making snide remarks like this. It seems
>like you are so frustrated with not being able to get to Level 3 yourself
>that you want to take it away from everyone else. Sour grapes?

Very good MS Flip :-). If you need to find fault in my person in order to
explain how "holding contradictory beliefs" may be benefical it does not
seem to be very convincing to me.

>As you so diligently have been pointing out for the last two years, it is
>easy to be misunderstood or deliberately misinterpreted when coming from
>Level 3.

Please don't put words in my mouth. This is only your opinion.

>However, as Emerson said, to be great is to be misunderstood.

And to be misunderstood is not necessarily to be great.

>I choose to put up with your sometimes humorous, sometimes
>bitter sniping because I choose to express who I am rather than
>filter my every thought through the castrating sieve of consistency
>that I used to use.

Thank you for being you. I appreciate it.

>Since that time, contrary to your suspicions, my human
>relationships have transformed from hellish to wonderful,
>and the texture of my life has gone away from
>"getting away with stuff" toward creating that which I am here to

If you volunteer some personal information it would be much more convincing
if you were more specific. The last little personal example you gave with
"Nametag" was a real eye-opener for me.

>I guess Level 3 is a disease as far as your Level 2 mindset is
>concerned, just as penicillin is toxic to certain forms of life.

I do not appreciate your putting me in a box labeled Level-2 or Level-3 or
whatever. Dividing people by levels or "unwashed masses" and enlightened
Level-3ers does not lead anywhere but conflict. Please stop doing it.

I am still not clear how "Holding contradictory beliefs" may be beneficial
to a person, except my theory that "These kind of people get away with many
things". What do you think of my theory?

Regards, Tadeusz (Tad) Niwinski from planet TeTa (604) 985-4159