Re: virus: Faith

David McFadzean (
Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:41:07 -0700

At 05:23 AM 11/12/97 +0100, Reed Konsler wrote:

>Memes, as I understand the term, cannot be "dangerous and parasitic".
>This would confuse memes with mind-viruses, or self-propagating
>memetic constructs. Of course, this depends on which defintions we

Yes, but that's like saying falling from a height isn't dangerous,
it's the sudden stop at the end. True, but...

>use. It isn't that I disagree with the statement, but why are we
>biasing ourselves? Right now I see you as saying:
>"Lets Agree:
>Faith is not necessarily good, and is often bad.
>Rationality is not necessarily bad, and is often good."

The purpose of agreeing is to open up channels for constructive
influence and to establish some common ground rules to
facilitate discussion and communication.

>:-) Come on, David, is this a real thought experiment or what?
>If these things you hold so dear are as true as you think we will
>return to them as unerringly as if attracted to the firmament by
>gravity. I'm simply asking you to drop both spheres from
>the tower with equal disinterest.

OK, I'm game. Let's do the experiment. Now what? :-)

Would you like me to post a discussion I have been having with
an evangelistic minister over the last few days? I ended it this
morning when he told me I was too stupid to see true evidence
contained in the bible for what it is. It has been a real
exercise in frustration, which seems to occur whenever there is
a disagreement about someone's faith.

>:-) But, I thought I WAS on the dark side! :-)

Join the infidels, Reed. We have so much to offer.. :-)

David McFadzean       
Memetic Engineer      
Church of Virus