Re: virus: our domain name...

sodom (Sodom@ma.ultranet.com)
Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:36:56 -0400

I agree in part with what you are saying, However, in this case I think you take "lucifer" to mean Satan. It does not, in any sense mean Satan. "Lucifer" in modern times has taken on the dubious connotation, but in actuality, Lucifer is the name of an ancient King (Babylonian I think), and is not refrenced in the Bible at all. Lucifer means stricly "bringer of light", and in my opinion is a perfect place to be. I do understand how it looks to other people, and I have had the same difficulty both explaining the CoV and our URL to people, but basically, they dont care as soon as I get too far into it. And the truth of the matter is, I dont like most people, the last thing I want is to become a populist religion full of people ready to worship something different. I tend to like people who gravitate to us and want conversation that is based on some "rational meme".
Now, if you would like to make a mirror site, with minor modifications, in an attempt to spread our meme or any meme, then I would be glad to help. I would very much like to experiment on the minds of other people, as long as I can do it in a sneaky way. some of you have heard my music, im willing to write something very hypnotic if someelse is willing to develop the message. I am perfectly willing to experiment on the public.

Sodom
Bill Roh

Josh Aaron Bradley wrote:

> not that this will matter to anyone, but sometimes I wish we would package ourselves to be a bit more marketable to the general public, a couple superficial alterations and we'd be good to go, for instance, our domain name lucifer.com, I realize that it's supposed to be figurative and symbolic and all and that it represents a challenge to traditional Xian thought, but why fight back with "their" terminology? and why name your domain such that every time you tell it to someone you have to explain that we're not really satanists, we just use him figuratively. if we want to infect and spread we should tend to our appearance. we don't need to change anything but our url. Skeptical, humanist, agnostic, and atheist thought seep into the mainstream through seemingly harmless venues: magazines, books, science, etc. these thoughts can't go under the radar of ordinary people while attached to the name lucifer. i don't think we should change a bit inside, but our surface should be more
> representative of our beliefs. what do a bunch of atheists/agnostics want with the name lucifer anyway? we should give people a chance to see what we're about rather than scaring them away before giving us a chance. i really don't care much personally what our domain is, but for the sake of spreading it only makes sense to make the changes. i realize that this letter is unlikely to change many minds, considering max moore seems to have been the one to suggest the name, but i hope people will consider it. damn it, no time, have to get across campus in 5 minutes. tell me what you think. cya
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> -Josh
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