Re: virus: Spirited away

Tim Rhodes (proftim@speakeasy.org)
Wed, 29 Jul 1998 02:23:23 -0700


Many moons ago Wade wrote:

>While there have been structures found in musical and
>dramatic products, Wilson's argument is that mind as a structure can not
>be found in this way, and I agree. If we go one more step, and say the
>memes are parts of the structure of mind (which I think we all do here)

My friend you do assume too much...

>then, ipso facto, pretty pictures don't hack it.
>
>Now, I'm not saying that some of the fMRI images I've seen ain't been
>damn pretty, they are.... But, lo and behold- they're actual empirical
>evidence... real images of working brains. Is that not the way to go?

No.

>And
>if you think it ain't, please provide one shred of empirical evidence
>gathered over the centuries by philosophy.

Strawman--sociology, empirical evidence and all, is the competition with
neurology in the quest for the meme. Not philosophy.

>Wilson's point is that it is
>bogus to be holding onto some romantic notion that mind is approachable
>by abstract methods.

What is abstract about study of the diffusion of ideas through a culture, my
good man? Or, IOW, what the hell were you arguing /against/ here?

-Prof. Tim,
chagrinned that he finds himself in agreement with Brett on this point.